Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/24/1998 05:04 PM House ITT

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HB 432 - AIRPORT REVENUE BONDS                                                 
                                                                               
Number 0010                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY announced the first order of business was HB 432,             
"An Act relating to the bond authorization for international                   
airports revenue bonds; and providing for an effective date."  In              
his sponsor statement, Chairman Cowdery explained that HB 432 would            
provide authorization for the state to issue up to $280 million in             
revenue bonds to pay for improvements to the Anchorage                         
International Airport (AIA).  The amount of the bonding                        
authorization may change depending on information received during              
the committee process.  He sponsored HB 432 because he supports the            
developments and improvements at the Anchorage International                   
Airport; however, as the committee of first referral, he said it is            
the committee's job to develop a complete record on the issues                 
involved in this project.  He said the committee would try to                  
surface as many questions about the underlying assumptions made to             
justify this project, although it may not be possible to get all               
the answers.  He said that officials of the Department of Revenue,             
the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOTPF) and               
the Anchorage International Airport may have to work hard to                   
justify this project.                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0038                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY announced the committee was scheduled to meet                 
until 7:00 p.m. and would reconvene at 5:00 p.m. the following                 
evening at which time he would open up the meeting for questions.              
A follow-up meeting will be held in approximately one week.                    
                                                                               
Number 0059                                                                    
                                                                               
MARCO PIGNALBERI, Legislative Assistant to Representative John                 
Cowdery, Alaska State Legislature said this bill amends the                    
statutory  bonding limit for the state of Alaska to seek                       
international airport revenue bonds.  The current limit is                     
$100,825,000 and this bill would change the limit to $280,000,000.             
The difference between the old amount and the new amount is                    
$179,175,000, which is the amount of new debt proposed to finance              
passenger terminal improvements at Anchorage International Airport.            
                                                                               
Number 0072                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PIGNALBERI continued this increased bonding authority is only              
one component of the financing for the proposed airport                        
improvements.  Another component includes federal highway funds for            
curbside improvements and a surface transportation access corridor.            
A third component is federal airport funding for ramp and airside              
improvements.  The bonding cap contained in this bill is $25                   
million less than a similar bill introduced by the Governor.  This             
bill contemplates an additional $25 million in federal funding;                
thus, reducing the amount the state needs to borrow.  By taking the            
$25 million off the table, it will not be available to expand the              
project.                                                                       
                                                                               
MR. PIGNALBERI said the $179 million in proposed terminal                      
improvements represents the single largest public works project the            
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities has ever                      
undertaken.  The wisdom of taking on such a high amount of debt,               
and whether the international airport revenue fund (IARF) can                  
afford the debt, remains to be proven in the legislative committee             
hearing process.  Several of the small air carriers have expressed             
concern that the proposed project is too large.  They voted against            
it, but lost.  Still, their concerns may be valid and we owe it to             
them to make the project no more expensive than is necessary.                  
                                                                               
Number 0097                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PIGNALBERI further stated this bill is also notable for what it            
does not contain.  It differs from the Governor's proposal in that             
it does not change the statutes to allow for undefined brokerage               
fees and unspecified obligations to be charged against the IARF.               
He noted that Chairman Cowdery as the sponsor of HB 432, would be              
willing to entertain narrow amendments, if necessary, and if the               
Departments of Revenue and Transportation and Public Facilities can            
justify any changes.                                                           
                                                                               
Number 0112                                                                    
                                                                               
KURT PARKAN, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation &               
Public Facilities, expressed his appreciation to Chairman Cowdery              
for sponsoring HB 432 which the department considers to be an                  
important project for the state of Alaska.  The DOTPF has some                 
concerns, however, on some of the elements of HB 432, specifically,            
the dollar amount.                                                             
                                                                               
Number 0128                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PARKAN announced that Mort Plumb, Director, Anchorage                      
International Airport, would be discussing the current status of               
the airport and the need for the development of this project.  Leif            
Selkregg, program management consultant with the firm of RISE,                 
Alaska who helped develop the program and the scope for the project            
will be testifying, followed by David Eberle, Program Director for             
Gateway Alaska.  Mr. Parkan said that Mr. Eberle is currently the              
Director of Construction and Operations for the Central Region at              
the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities.  His                     
experience includes projects of this size; he was the project                  
manager for the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Plant; and project                  
director for the northern intertie.  The DOTPF felt fortunate to               
have someone with Mr. Eberle's experience on board as the project              
director for this particular project.                                          
                                                                               
MR. PARKAN noted that following Mr. Eberle's testimony, George King            
of Hudson AIPF will discuss the financial package and why this is              
the time is now to go forward with this project in terms of                    
interest rates for bonds and other considerations.  Mr. Parkan                 
asked Mr. Plumb to present his testimony.                                      
                                                                               
Number 0176                                                                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
MORT PLUMB, Director, Anchorage International Airport, said as                 
director, he has a responsibility that is vitally important and                
very humbling, at times.  It's a challenge that he takes very                  
seriously and a challenge he has dedicated his total professional              
efforts, as well as the efforts of the professional airport team,              
to manage this resource in the best interest of the state.  He said            
the terminal's existing deficiencies and need is substantial and               
has been carefully documented by a team of experts, along with the             
airlines in developing reasonable solutions to these problems.  The            
growth of aviation and the aviation-related industries, is huge on             
a national and global scale.  What is being presented to the                   
committee at this hearing is only a small example of the challenges            
facing airports everywhere - updating outdated facilities and                  
meeting increased need.                                                        
                                                                               
Number 0195                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB said the plan being presented is conservative in its                 
planning assessments.  It is a phased approach with planning to the            
year 2015, but building to the year 2005.  The plan is fiscally                
responsible; there are no general funds being used.  The plan is a             
product of a close working relationship with the airlines which                
resulted in a positive vote for the project.  Anchorage                        
International Airport is the entry and exist point for most                    
traveling Alaskans, tourist and business travelers.  The airport is            
woefully out of balance at this time.  The terminal facilities are             
unable to support the growing airside activity.  For example, the              
airport has only 43 percent needed in the baggage claim area, 40               
percent in the ticket lobby and inadequate curbside.                           
                                                                               
Number 0272                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB recognizes the project as significant, but it is a                   
project that must happen.  The piecemeal approach to airport needs             
must be avoided; it's too expensive and valuable ground is being               
lost each year as the airport falls further behind in meeting the              
increasing facility needs.  The plan being presented is the most               
cost effective way of keeping Anchorage International Airport as a             
part of the statewide economy, provide a safe and good quality                 
environment for the traveling public, and to protect the investment            
of the shareholder's of the state of Alaska.                                   
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY thanked Mr. Plumb for his testimony and asked Mr.             
Argue to present his comments.                                                 
                                                                               
Number 0236                                                                    
                                                                               
CLIFF ARGUE, Staff Vice President of Properties and Facilities,                
Alaska Airlines; and Chairman, Anchorage/Fairbanks Airlines Airport            
Affairs Committee, testified offnet from Seattle.  He said the                 
Anchorage/Fairbanks Airlines Airport Affairs Committee is comprised            
of 25 airlines who have signed lease and operating agreements with             
one or both of the international airports.  Last November, the                 
airlines voted in accordance with the agreement each had executed              
and long standing past practice, to approve the financing and                  
construction of the proposed terminal redevelopment project at                 
Anchorage International Airport with an estimated total cost of                
$191 million.  During the voting process, the DOTPF pledged $26.5              
million in federal highway funds to the project, leaving a net                 
total of $164.5 million.  The vote also approved the Alaska                    
International Airport System (AIAS) to issue airport revenue bonds             
in an amount necessary to cover the new net project cost, financing            
and escalation with the understanding that AIAS would continue to              
"use its best efforts to obtain alternate sources of                           
funding/financing to reduce airline cost exposure."  It is the                 
hope, but not certain at this time, that federal airport                       
improvement funds will also be available to help in this regard.               
                                                                               
MR. ARGUE stated, "Based on this approval by the signatory                     
airlines, I appear before you today to speak in favor of HB 432                
representing those carriers who voted for the project."  Having                
been involved for nearly 30 years in the planning and development              
of airport terminal facilities, he said the work to date on the                
Anchorage project is among the most thorough and professional such             
effort he has seen.  The needs assessment, conceptual solutions and            
financing plan were carefully developed by an expert team of                   
airport staff and consultants.  There was excellent coordination               
with the airlines at every step in the process.                                
                                                                               
Number 0271                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. ARGUE said that his colleagues from a number of other airlines,            
including Reeve, Lynden, Northwest, United, Delta, Reno, America               
West, Federal Express and UPS all share his feeling on the quality             
of the process.  The serious deficiencies in the existing Anchorage            
domestic terminal are well known, both as documented in the studies            
that Mr. Plumb spoke to earlier, and certainly experienced at one              
time or another by most people when traveling or meeting someone               
who is traveling.  The plan to remedy these shortcoming between now            
and the year 2005 is sound and conservative.  It will provide the              
citizens of Alaska and the many visitors from outside a modern,                
efficient and functional airport terminal serving the largest city             
and air transportation hub of the state.  It will also allow                   
passengers flying out of Anchorage to use the newest technologies              
to speed their progress through the terminal.  The people at Alaska            
Airlines are especially excited about the opportunities this                   
project presents for offering better customer service as quickly as            
possible.  He urged committee members as they consider this                    
legislation, to give the AIAS the maximum flexibility to issue the             
bonds necessary for the project all at one time.  This is the most             
cost effective way to proceed rather than try to phase it.  These              
bonds will be backed by airport revenues generated from rates, fees            
and charges to the airlines and in no way impact the state's                   
general fund.  The additional cost to the airlines, when considered            
on a cost per en planed passenger basis, is modest.  The AIAS                  
proposal is a prudent and reasonable approach to funding much                  
needed improvements to one of the major economic engines of the                
state.                                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0295                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. ARGUE requested the committee's favorable action to allow this             
project to move ahead in a timely and complete fashion.  He thanked            
the committee for the opportunity to present his comments.                     
                                                                               
Number 0297                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked Mr. Argue to explain how the vote approval              
process works among the members of the Airline/Airport Affairs                 
Committee.                                                                     
                                                                               
MR. ARGUE said that under the agreement, the DOTPF or the AIAS                 
brings forward a list of capital projects to the carriers.  Those              
projects are reviewed with the airport and then the voting takes               
place where each airline that is signatory to the agreement votes              
to either approve or disapprove.  In order for a project not to be             
approved, it requires 66 2/3 percent of the airlines voting to                 
disapprove a project, in which case the project is then eliminated             
from the DOTPF's capital program that comes forward to the                     
legislature.  However, that is only a one-year deferral and the                
following year, if the DOTPF deems the project is still necessary,             
it can be brought forward again and presented to the carriers.  If             
the project is voted down a second time, the DOTPF can still bring             
it forward to the legislature.  He explained this is a provision               
that was negotiated in 1985/1986 when the first agreements were                
signed; it's been renewed on two occasions and is similar to what's            
found in the voting procedures at various airports.  He noted there            
are a number of variations on the voting process and this is just              
one of them.                                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0321                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked if there is a time limit once a project is              
approved by the committee.                                                     
                                                                               
MR. ARGUE replied, "In this case, we saw a financing plan that                 
carried out the cost of this project would be spread on the bond               
debt service, and I don't have that document in front of me, I                 
believe it's probably in about the 20 to 25 year time frame.                   
Normally, most projects that are approved have a life of 25 years.             
Some equipment is less than that - I believe it's 10 to 15 years."             
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY next asked Leif Selkregg to come forward to                   
testify.                                                                       
                                                                               
Number 0337                                                                    
                                                                               
LEIF SELKREGG, Program Management Consultant to the Anchorage                  
International Airport and the Department of Transportation & Public            
Facilities, testified that in September 1996 AIA and the DOTPF                 
assembled a planning team and initiated the planning process to                
develop the AIA terminal master plan for the planning horizon year             
2015.  He said this planning effort was supported a carefully                  
developed needs assessment in a phased implementation program                  
strategy.  The planning team is comprised of leading national                  
aviation planning consultants including TAMS Consultants for                   
aviation forecasting, Landham (ph) and Brown for terminal master               
planning, Joe Hirsch (ph) & Associates for space programming, P &              
D Aviation for retail concession planning, and Hudson AIPF for                 
financial planning.  The planning team also includes Alaska based              
project management and architectural engineering firms who are                 
working in the prime contract role, coordinating the multi-                    
disciplined experts in integrating the plan into the Alaskan                   
environment, RISE Alaska for program management support, McCool,               
Carlson, Green for architectural engineering and R&M Consultants               
for civil engineering.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0349                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG discussed the process utilized to get to this stage.              
The planning team has worked closely with the airlines and AIA                 
management to develop a partnership approach to the planning                   
process.  Based on a series of workshops, meetings and direct                  
input, a preferred terminal master plan has been approved by the               
AIA management and the airlines to address today's needs and demand            
to the year 2005, while still maintaining maximum flexibility for              
terminal development beyond 2005 to 2015.  He commented that                   
getting to the preferred terminal master plan for 2005 required                
that a detailed aviation forecast and needs assessment be prepared.            
This was followed by the development of 14 separate master plan                
concepts; those master plan concepts were refined down to 4 and                
eventually 1 concept with supporting budget, schedule and plan of              
finance information which was presented to the committee.  He noted            
that throughout the entire process there has been a discipline of              
internal peer review between the aviation consultants on both the              
forecasts and the needs assessment work.                                       
                                                                               
Number 0361                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG said with regards to the aviation forecast, the TAMS              
aviation forecast for domestic enplanement growth at AIA to the                
year 2015 is projected to be 3.6 percent.  He explained that                   
forecast growth is shown as a straight line forecast, but in                   
reality, it's comprised of peaks, valleys and plateaus.  Growth at             
AIA over the next 10 years is forecast to be 4.8 percent, then                 
slowing as the forecast horizon gets further away and more                     
difficult to predict.  Historical activity at AIA for the last                 
seven years shows 4.65 percent growth; the Federal Aviation                    
Administration (FAA) for AIA for the next 10 years is 4.13 percent             
and the Lee Fisher (ph) forecast which was prepared for AIA in 1993            
is consistent with the TAMS forecast.  To convert the forecast,                
enplanements in 1997 were 2,136,000 and predicted to grow to 2.5               
million by the year 2000; and 3 million by the end of the year                 
2005.                                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0373                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG said in terms of deficiencies, the domestic south                 
terminal consists of three major sections which vary in age,                   
condition and function.  Concourse C was built in the 1950s and was            
originally designed for small propeller aircraft and has met the               
end of its useful life.  Concourse B, built in the 1960s, was                  
designed for jet aircraft with second level boarding and before the            
advent of passenger security screening in today's larger aircraft.             
Concourse A was built in the early 1980s to accommodate a unique               
mixture of secured and not secured flights.  Since Concourse A was             
built 15 years ago, passenger traffic has increased at AIA by over             
60 percent and the standards for security and levels of service                
have dramatically changed in the aviation sector.                              
                                                                               
Number 0381                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG explained that to meet today's needs and today's                  
enplanement activities, AIA has only 43 percent of the baggage                 
claim area required, 40 percent of the ticket lobby area required,             
and 89 percent of the jet gates required.  There is a significant              
imbalance between the airside capacity, at 80 percent, and the                 
publicside capacity, at 40 percent.  He said that because of the               
unique peaking of activity at AIA in the summer months, the current            
domestic terminal area is at service levels D and F, which is a                
rating schedule of A-F.  With the imminent demolition of Concourse             
C, AIA will be at 75 percent capacity on today's space needs and by            
the year 2000 it will be at 60 percent.  He pointed out that a                 
preferred terminal master plan concept has been developed and                  
approved by the airlines.  That came as a result of an intense six             
month planning process directly with the airlines requiring a high             
degree of involvement from the airlines.  An evaluation process was            
developed that allowed the airlines to refine the preferred concept            
from the original pool of 14 concepts.  Meeting with the airlines              
on a bi-weekly basis, the airlines input guided the planning team              
to the final development of the concept and implementation plan for            
construction of new and renovated components in a controlled roll              
out, triggered by need.                                                        
                                                                               
Number 0346                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG concluded the concept which has been approved by the              
airlines increases the capacity for five new jet gates to the north            
and seven new regional parking positions.  This would bring the                
total number of jet gates to 24 and the regional parking positions             
to 20.  In order to accomplish this program, there has to be cross-            
utilization between jet positions and regional aircraft positions              
which requires careful scheduling by the airlines.  If the cross-              
utilization is not gotten with the airlines, additional jet gates              
will be required.  The ticket lobby and baggage claim area has been            
extended to the west side of the existing terminal, the curbside               
and road system will be extended to accommodate the new terminal               
area, there will be a new tour group processing facilities and                 
expanded retail space.                                                         
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG introduced David Eberle who would discuss the schedule            
and budget components.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0409                                                                    
                                                                               
DAVE EBERLE, Director, Design and Construction, Central Region,                
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities, said he had been             
asked to become the program director for the Gateway Alaska project            
and the terminal redevelopment project.  Presently, he is involved             
in the environmental assessment process for this project, including            
public participation and developing schematic designs for the                  
terminal project.  The construction of the project will actually               
take place over a five-year-period to help minimize impact on the              
airlines as well as the traveling public.  The first step will                 
involve the "enabling projects" which are small projects that are              
required in order to first relocate the regional carriers, as well             
as Delta Airlines.  He explained that Delta Airlines will be                   
temporarily relocated into the international terminal and the                  
regional carriers will be distributed through the existing                     
facility. After the enabling projects, Concourse C will be                     
demolished, beginning as early as the beginning of 1999.                       
Immediately following, will be the construction of the replacement             
Concourse C which could begin as early as the summer of 1999.  It              
will take approximately 2 1/2 years to build that portion of the               
project.  Once that is completed, some of the carriers will be                 
moved into their permanent relocations, others will be on a                    
temporary assignment and then the rehabilitation of the existing               
concourse will begin in two stages.  The west half will be first               
and will take approximately one year, between the years 2001 and               
2002.  The east half will then be done between the years 2002 and              
2003.                                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0430                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE referred to a drawing and explained that as parallel                
activities to the concourse development itself, the road work will             
be done which consists of widening the access road coming in as                
well as a new elevated section of the roadway and curbside adjacent            
to the new Concourse C.  Also, a return radius will be completed to            
facilitate internal circulation within the airport which is                    
presently not good.  The parking area within the loop will also be             
improved.  In addition to the roadside, airside improvements                   
including new aprons paralleling the new structures, as well as                
some remote field stationing sites and overnight parking for                   
aircraft away from the terminal will be undertaken.                            
                                                                               
Number 0437                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE said that's most of the construction elements and                   
relative timing of those elements.  All work will be completed by              
the end of year 2003; ready for use in the year 2004.                          
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY referred to Concourse C and asked what the total              
extension would be in feet.                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG responded about 300 linear feet.                                  
                                                                               
Number 0444                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS asked what plans had been made for the            
smaller carriers using Concourse C while it is being rebuilt.                  
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE said those would be the regional carriers and there are             
two possible solutions.  Delta Airlines will be moved to the                   
international terminal, Alaska Airlines could be shifted, which                
would allow space for the regional carriers.  Or, the regional                 
carriers could actually move into the old Delta Airlines area.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS assumed the area would have to be secured              
before construction began.                                                     
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB confirmed that would be the two options available.  The              
two gates would need to be secured, as it now an unsecured area.               
                                                                               
Number 0454                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE said with respect to project cost, the 1997 estimate                
prepared by Mr. Selkregg, is $191 million.  If that amount is                  
escalated to the midpoint of construction, allowing for inflation,             
it's about $205 million.  The following is a breakdown by feature:             
enabling works, approximately $5 million; road and parking portion,            
about $34 million; terminal C replacement, approximately $84                   
million; airside improvements, roughly $38 million; and the                    
renovation of the existing terminal is about $43 million, for a                
total of $205 million.  He said the management plan to be used on              
this project is basically the same approach he used on Bradley Lake            
in the Anchorage/Fairbanks Intertie, and that is to do the majority            
of the work through the use of professional consultants with very              
little support from the in-house staff, itself.  The Department of             
Transportation & Public Facilities is not going to be gearing up to            
do this project; existing staff will be used but primarily it will             
be consultant work.  The design work for the terminal and all the              
road improvements will be by consultant, the airside improvements              
will be split between consultants and in-house staff, using                    
existing staff, and the project management will be a combination of            
existing staff augmented by consultants.  He found this to be a                
very effective way of managing and it avoids having to gear up an              
agency, only to layoff people later on.  Other elements he would be            
involved with are the road projects between International Airport              
Road and the Seward Highway, which will be implemented on an as-               
needed basis and are part of the Federal Highway Statewide                     
Transportation Improvement Program (STIP) process.                             
                                                                               
Number 0472                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE stated in terms of funding source and plan of finance               
for this project, the estimated construction cost is $205 million.             
When the bond issuance cost and interest during construction are               
added in, the total cost is $230 million.  The anticipated funding             
sources right now are $204 million in revenue bonds and $26 million            
in federal highway monies.  In addition, the airport is attempting             
to secure additional funds through the Federal Aviation                        
Administration (FAA) but that is uncertain at this time.                       
                                                                               
Number 0481                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS wanted to confirm for the record that the              
expansion or the work on the pipeline is not part of the project.              
                                                                               
MR. EBERLE confirmed that it is not part of the project.  He                   
announced that George King was available offnet to discuss the plan            
of finance.                                                                    
                                                                               
Number 0485                                                                    
                                                                               
GEORGE KING, Financial Consultant, HUDSON AIPF, LLC, said he would             
address certain considerations relating to the financial plan for              
the project.  The first item he would speak to is the purpose of               
the financial plan and the second is to outline the three key                  
objectives and how those objectives have been met.                             
                                                                               
Number 0489                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. KING said the overall purpose of the financial plan is to be               
sure that funds will be delivered at the proper time and in the                
proper amount to support the project.  In order to accomplish this,            
three principal objectives were set forth.  First, to achieve low              
cost; second, to do so with low risk; and third, to maintain high              
flexibility.  With respect to the first objective, the financial               
plan has met this objective in two principal ways.  He said first              
of all we have the benefit of being in the lowest interest rate                
environment experienced in the last 20-30 years. Secondly, we also             
have the benefit of favorable federal tax law which allows the                 
airport to issue tax exempt bonds.  This is favorable federal tax              
law policy is in effect in recognition of the importance of airport            
projects throughout the country to the national transportation                 
system.  This is a discretionary authority that Congress has given             
airports at this time.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0497                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. KING stated the second objective to achieve low cost with low              
risk has been met in three ways:  1)  All sources of funds of the              
financial plan are within the control of the airport and the state             
of Alaska, collectively; 2) the plan has no hypothetical sources of            
funds on which the project is dependent; and 3) the plan approaches            
the funding by securing the complete funding up-front so the                   
construction team can bid and construct the project in the most                
efficient and economical manner.                                               
                                                                               
Number 0509                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. KING continued the third objection which is to meet the low                
cost and low risk objectives while maintaining high flexibility  is            
met in two principal ways:  1)  Incorporated in the bond resolution            
is 25 years of flexibility to meet the airport's commitment to "use            
its best efforts to obtain alternate sources of funding or                     
financing to reduce airline cost exposure."  This will be done by              
imposing a credit mechanism in the bond resolution to reduce on a              
dollar-for-dollar-basis the debt service on the bonds, using future            
funds received for the project originally financed by the bonds.               
                                                                               
MR. KING said in summary, he is very pleased with the plan of                  
finance in that through a combination of hard work and fortunate               
circumstances, he feels very confident that a low cost, low risk,              
high flexibility delivery of funds to the project can be achieved              
in a timely way.                                                               
                                                                               
Number 0522                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY thanked Mr. King for his testimony.  He referred              
to the brochure and asked Mr. Selkregg to explain the scope of the             
additional improvements being proposed in a separate cargo master              
plan.                                                                          
                                                                               
MR. SELKREGG responded the master plan for the cargo section is not            
a part of the terminal master planning process, so he deferred the             
question to Mr. Plumb who has a separate consulting team working on            
the cargo master plan.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0532                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB said the cargo master plan is a separate document, but               
will incorporate those principals which were found in the master               
plan done by Lee Fisher and also incorporate those which are part              
of the terminal master plan.  Those improvements are yet to be                 
identified, so the costs will have to wait until the improvements              
have been identified.  He indicated that many of the improvements              
will be programmatic in that as certain facilities are required and            
triggered by the demand, the timing will correspond to that demand.            
He said, "We, for example, use, I think, approximately around a                
million dollars per square foot of taxiway, so depending on how far            
up we may have to put a taxiway, you could use that as a ballpark              
figure in gauging."  In his opinion, it would be inappropriate to              
speculate at this time.                                                        
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked if there had always been a separate cargo               
master plan in the past.                                                       
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB responded no.                                                        
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY inquired about the funding for the cargo master               
plan.                                                                          
                                                                               
MR. PLUMB recalled it would come from the advance project design               
money.                                                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY called on Ross Kinney from Department of Revenue.             
                                                                               
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ROSS KINNEY, Deputy Commissioner, Treasury Division, Department of             
Revenue, said his purpose was to answer questions.  He noted that              
George King was the financial advisor for this project, and the                
Department of Revenue prepared the fiscal notes based on Mr. King's            
information.                                                                   
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY noted the fiscal note includes three interest rate            
scenarios and asked which rate was the likely rate if the project              
was to go forward this year.                                                   
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY explained one of the schedules attached to the fiscal               
note has the current interest rates, as of this week.  The second              
schedule adds 100 basis points, or 1 percent, to each of those                 
rates and was recalculated; and the third schedule adds 200 basis              
points, or 2 percent to those rates.  He stated, "When we sit here             
and take a look at what's going on in the world today, what's going            
on in the United States, what's going on with interest rates, we               
have to be a little bit careful in that we allow enough wriggle                
room, if you will, to ensure that we are not trying to sell a bill             
of goods to people that are dealing with the financing of this                 
project.  And I'm talking about the airlines in that case.  And we             
don't want to create an expectation that we can't possibly meet.               
My recommendation to the committee would be take the schedule that             
takes the current interest rates, adds 200 basis points or 2                   
percent to those current rates, and use that as a rule of thumb to             
ensure that everyone's on the same sheet of music and agrees that              
this project should go forward at that level.  That's not to say               
that based on the current market conditions, that we would issue               
bonds anywhere close to those rates.  It would be more likely                  
somewhere between the rates we see today and the 200 basis points.             
If this bond issue takes place within the next eight or nine                   
months, hopefully we'll see these rates back off somewhat and we               
may see some even lower rates.  It's really difficult for me to sit            
here and tell you that we can peg those numbers."                              
                                                                               
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MR. KING agreed with Mr. Kinney's comments and indicated he had                
some numbers to add for consideration to Chairman Cowdery's                    
question.  From 1977 to 1991, municipal market interest rates in               
the category where the bonds would be issued, were in excess of 7              
percent, with a very brief period where it was below.  From 1991 to            
1993, long-term rates declined from about 7 percent to about 5                 
percent.                                                                       
                                                                               
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MR. KING continued that from 1993 to 1994, the rates went back up              
from 5 percent to 7 percent.  And from 1994 to present, rates came             
back down from 7 percent to 5 percent.  So, the rates were above 7             
percent from 1977 to 1991 and have been within the range of 7                  
percent to 5 percent from 1991 to the present.                                 
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY added that in January 1998, the state bond committee                
issued bonds for the public health facility in Anchorage,                      
authorized by the legislature a year ago, and the true interest                
cost on that project over a 15-year period was 4.389 percent.  He              
pointed out that debt was issued with credit enhancement, meaning              
that insurance had been acquired to guarantee a triple A rate.                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked if the sale of these bonds would have any               
impact on the bonding capacity for the Fairbanks airport.                      
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY understands the two airports are combined into one                  
enterprise fund and one of the major considerations in issuing                 
revenue bonds for airport projects, is the coverage available to               
meet the debt service requirements.  In this case, the net revenues            
of the two airports combined for the international airport system              
would be looked at to determine what that coverage is, which in                
turn would have an impact on the capacity to issue debt.  In short,            
it would have an impact on the total amount of debt that could be              
issued until the coverage is raised.                                           
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY acknowledged that Representative Rokeberg was                 
present.                                                                       
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked Mr. Kinney if, in the discussion on              
the bonding capabilities and the interest on the bonds, had there              
been any discussion regarding the additional bonding that the                  
legislature is considering for deferred maintenance.                           
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said this bonding was entirely separate because the                 
international airports are operated as an enterprise fund and only             
the revenues from the airport operations are used to pay this debt.            
It has no bearing on the general fund or its capability to issue               
debt because the sources of funding are two entirely different                 
things.                                                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE NORM ROKEBERG believed that Mr. Kinney's warning                
about the 200 basis point increase over the market rates is very               
conservative.  He asked Mr. Kinney to explain the historic                     
relationship between the 30-year long bond and an equivalent credit            
worthiness of a municipal or tax free bond.                                    
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY replied the differential varies and depends on the bond             
rating; tripe A, double A or A rated.                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG said to assume it was the same rating as a             
30-year treasury bond.                                                         
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY believed it would equal somewhere in the neighborhood of            
75 to 100 basis points.                                                        
                                                                               
MR. KING confirmed that Mr. Kinney's range was correct.  He added              
that 75 basis points to about 120 basis points is the range, and it            
revolves most closely around 75 - 100 basis points.                            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG inquired what the time frame would be for              
the issuance of the revenue bonds for this project.                            
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said with the possibility of interim financing being                
looked at, but the bond issue would be close to the first of the               
year, 1999.  He directed the committee's attention to the schedules            
for the fiscal note which indicated the date of delivery of the                
bonds was October 1, 1998.  There will be a need for financing                 
early on and one of the things that may be considered in this                  
project is whether a financing mechanism, called bond anticipation             
notes, is used in order to secure some interim financing in a small            
amount up-front to carry the project on or whether "we have to go              
for the whole ball of wax."  He said it is important for the                   
committee to be aware that this project exceeds the normal                     
allowances by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) for having issued             
the debt before it is totally committed or spent and a letter may              
have to be requested from the IRS to allow that to be done in order            
to meet the arbitrage requirements imposed by the IRS.  That will              
dictate how much interim financing will be necessary and the                   
possibility exists that it may have to be separated into two                   
financings because normally the IRS requires that the proceeds of              
the bond issues be spent within 36 months unless the IRS has                   
granted special dispensation to carry those proceeds longer.                   
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY pointed out there are some restrictions on the amount of            
interest that can be earned on the proceeds, and if the yield on               
the bonds is exceeded, then the arbitrage calculations would need              
to be done and the excess proceeds would be rebated to the federal             
government.  He acknowledged there are a number of things that come            
into play with this project that will dictate where we are, how we             
go about it, and certainly interest rates will play a large part of            
that.                                                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if he was correct that there is a cap            
on industrial development bonds based on a statewide IRS (indisc. -            
mumbling) and there's a cap established by the IRS.                            
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY confirmed that.                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if these revenue bonds would in any              
way interrupt the industrial development bonds available to be                 
issued in the state of Alaska.                                                 
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY responded there is no connection.  The competition right            
now within the state for those bonds lies with the Alaska                      
Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA), Alaska Housing            
Finance Corporation (AHFC) and the (indisc.) Corporation.                      
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked, "Mr. King, there's been a concern               
raised about the gross amount of financing -- you mentioned the                
mechanism but -- if in fact the bond issue was issued without or               
some $25 million less than has been requested by the                           
Administration, what would the cost and time frame be to go back to            
the marketplace to go out and ask for additional monies for it -               
were it to be forthcoming or would it be necessary -- were it                  
necessary?"                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. KING said from a cost point of view, it's hard to put an exact             
number on it, but he explained what the components of the cost                 
would be.  First, there would be additional transaction costs of               
needing to do over again what had been done the first time in terms            
of getting the legal disclosure documents together, printing the               
official statement, going to market and marketing the bonds,                   
soliciting the purchasers, and closing the transaction.  Those                 
transaction costs could be calculated fairly specifically.  The                
second category of cost is the unknown factor of what might happen             
to interest rates in the interim period.  He said his previous                 
examples of rate increases between 1993  to 1994 took place over a             
12-month period.  That would be the principal source of financial              
risk.                                                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked what 100 points would mean in terms of            
interest costs for this project.                                               
                                                                               
MR. KING said that 150 basis points on $100 million of bonds, which            
is about half of the project, would over the course of the term of             
issue cost about $30 million.  He offered to calculate 100 basis               
points on the entire amount and provide that information to the                
committee at the next meeting.                                                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked how much money was currently in the               
international airport revenue fund.                                            
                                                                               
JOHN UNGAR, Controller, Alaska International Airport System,                   
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities, said on June 30,             
the date of the last audit, there was approximately $75 million in             
the revenue fund.  He pointed out that wasn't idle cash.  Under the            
bond resolutions and operating agreement, they are required to keep            
about $35 million of that $75 million in reserves.  The approximate            
remaining $35 million is set aside to complete capital projects                
that have been appropriated in prior years that are in various                 
stages of completion.  There was an excess of $5 million over what             
was required which was returned to the airlines in the following               
year's landing fee calculation.                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked how much debt is currently against the                  
international airport revenue fund.                                            
                                                                               
MR. UNGAR said there is about $33 million outstanding of debt.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KIM ELTON said in terms of revenue bonds, his line              
of thinking is that the revenue source would pay off the bonds over            
time.  He referred to page 1, lines 12-14, and said this language              
seems to indicate that if revenues are short, the legislature can              
appropriate additional funds to pay off the bonds.                             
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said that was correct.  In the event that the revenues              
were short, the legislature could, in fact, appropriate funds.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked if that was fairly standard language.               
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said that gives the bondholders a level of comfort that             
they're assuming less risk than normal and the state derives a                 
benefit as a result of a lower interest rate because of the                    
perception, real or otherwise, so it is standard language to                   
include those kinds of things.  Some of the language put into the              
bill also provides credit enhancement where insurance is bought.               
The less risk, real or perceived, results in lower interest rates.             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON said, "Cliff Argue who testified from Seattle             
suggested that in the authorizing legislation we ought to give as              
much flexibility as possible and I guess one of the questions about            
flexibility and I think maybe the representative across from me was            
maybe getting to that, also, is that it seems to me that we're                 
better off if we don't if the additional federal airport dollars               
are there -- that we're better off giving enough authority for the             
$204 million rather than $179 million because you don't want to                
bind the hands too much.  I know that there's a bill out there that            
we're not discussing, but I wonder if the chairman would give us a             
little bit of latitude to talk about that $25 million and whether              
or not in the financial markets, given that we don't know whether              
that additional money is out there, we're going to be able to                  
capture it or corral it, you know, whether or not we ought not to              
be bonding for -- or giving authority for $204 million rather than             
$179 million."                                                                 
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY responded that looking at it from debt side, he believed            
that  (indisc.) scale back the scope of the project for that amount            
of money and that's obviously one of the things that needs to be               
looked at.  He added that a statement of sources and uses of funds             
has to be provided for potential investors so it is clear the                  
project is adequately funded and the project will be completed.  So            
if the feeling is there are not adequate funds to meet that, the               
project will have to be scaled back to the level of funding that               
can be secured.  In conjunction with that, some of the latitude                
being discussed deals with some of the language in the Governor's              
bill in that it provides some things that have happened in the                 
financial markets over the last 20 years that's not seen in the                
statutory language as it exists today.  One of the flexibilities he            
thought Representative Elton was alluding to was simply the fact               
that interest can be capitalized, credit enhancements can be used,             
determine whether interest rate payments will be made monthly,                 
quarterly, semi-annually or annually, and depending on how                     
everything fits together will dictate how this package is put                  
together, with the idea in mind to keep the cost down for the                  
airlines.  He concluded, "So you saw language, proposed amendments             
to the existing statute that provided some of those flexibilities              
and made some of those provisions extremely clear; that this is                
what we're doing, this is how we're doing it, and that goes along              
with our effort to try to keep the airlines informed as to what                
we're doing and what we're proposing.  And they fully understand               
these latitudes and they expect that we, in fact, will take                    
advantage of those that result in savings."                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked if he was correct in that if, in fact, it is            
determined that more money is needed a year or two down the road,              
the door has not been closed to an additional authorization.                   
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY thought it would be up to the airport management and the            
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities, but obviously, it            
would be possible to come back before the legislature and ask for              
additional authorization to issue additional bonds.                            
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY referred to the $25 million in FAA monies                     
available  for this project, and asked if that $25 million was                 
included in the amount of the bonds, would it be more difficult to             
convince the FAA there's a need for the money.                                 
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said he couldn't answer that question.                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY said he had reason to believe the FAA would find              
a reason to not hold up the project ....                                       
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY pointed out that Mr. King had stated part of the bond               
resolution would include a statement to the effect that in the                 
event additional money was forthcoming, that money would be                    
utilized to retire the debt and in turn lower the fee to the air               
carriers.                                                                      
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked if the state does bond for the extra $25            
million, are there constraints on those funds that aren't in HB 432            
or in the Governor's bill?                                                     
                                                                               
MR. KINNEY said yes, there are strings attached to this money.                 
First, the original project must be completed before that money can            
be spent for anything other than what was originally specified.  It            
will probably be set up with a "call feature" that will allow some             
of the bonds to be called and retired in the event excess monies               
were available.  Or those monies could be applied to debt service              
before any additional projects would be approved by the legislature            
or by the airlines affairs group.                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY next called on Ron Simpson to present his                     
testimony from Anchorage.                                                      
                                                                               
RON SIMPSON, Manager, Airports Division, Federal Aviation                      
Administration, Alaska Region, said  his division was responsible              
for the administration of the airport improvement program (AIP) and            
provide federal funding for airport and (indisc.) development                  
projects in Alaska.  He said based on earlier testimony, it is                 
clear that HB 432 contemplates an additional $25 million in funding            
from the FAA in support of the Anchorage international development             
project.  He stated, "Let me say first off that we in the FAA                  
strongly support the development proposals at Anchorage                        
International.  The airside improvement, the terminal expansion, as            
well as the access road improvements, we see as vital and important            
to the long-term needs of the airport."  His comments today would              
be directed on financing and funding options in an attempt to give             
the committee a perspective as to what is available in the area of             
airport improvement funding and what the outlook would be.                     
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON pointed out that Anchorage International Airport                   
receives funding from primarily two categories:  Entitlement                   
funding and discretionary funding.  The entitlement funding has                
been averaging around $5.5 million a year and is based on a                    
national formula that's distributed based on the overall AIP                   
funding levels.  It is distributed based on two categories;                    
passenger entitlement, based on the annual number of passengers who            
use the airport, which averages about $2.6 million annually; and               
cargo entitlements, based on cargo weigh bills, which averages                 
about $3 million annually.  Those funds are pretty much guaranteed             
to the Anchorage International Airport as long as there is an AIP              
bill supporting that.  The discretionary funding is the second                 
category and is distributed competitively on a national basis.  In             
FY 95, Anchorage received $2 million in discretionary funds, $2.1              
million in FY 96 and $2.3 in FY 97.  However, discretionary funds              
are tentative; there's no guarantee.  He emphasized that Anchorage             
International Airport competes nationally with all other airports              
in the same category for discretionary funds.  These discretionary             
funds are allocated based on priority as defined by the FAA's                  
national priority system which focuses primarily on safety,                    
security and capacity enhancements.  In order to compete                       
effectively for discretionary funds, projects submitted must be                
high priority projects.  With respect to the development plans for             
Anchorage which include apron work, terminal work and access roads,            
he said the apron work is a relatively low national  priority.  The            
terminal building does not compete at all for discretionary money,             
but he understands the access road will be primarily funded with               
federal highway dollars.                                                       
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said in looking at the strategy for FY 98, the FAA is              
contemplating about $6.25 million in discretionary requests, he                
thought the best advantage for securing discretionary dollars would            
be to approach financing these projects through the development of             
a letter of intent (LOI).  He explained that a letter of intent                
primarily is a long-term plan for future commitment of AIP funds               
where the project far exceeds the anticipated entitlement levels,              
which is the case with Anchorage International Airport.  The FAA's             
policy on letters of intent emphasizes four areas:  1)  the                    
projects must meet cost benefit analysis based on FAA methodology              
and approved forecasts; 2) the projects must significantly enhance             
the national air transportation system; 3) the projects must be                
ready projects; in other words, the planning, environmental and                
design must be completed and a complete funding strategy in place;             
and 4) the criteria looked at by the committee in FAA headquarters             
in approving letters of intent is the nonfederal financial                     
commitment portion of the financial plan demonstrating how the                 
letter of intent would be leveraged from nonfederal sources, such              
as airport revenue bonding.                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON continued the FAA is now in the process of working very            
closely with Anchorage International Airport on the letter of                  
intent package which is due at FAA headquarters on March 1.  The               
letter of intent description includes (indisc.) at approximately               
$13 million, overnight parking positions for passenger carriers at             
approximately $6 million, terminal apron reconstruction at                     
approximately $23 million, including the terminal development,                 
expansion, as well as replacing old pavement sections.  The runway             
reconstruction is also included in the letter of intent package,               
phase II, at approximately $10.4 million.  Overall, the letter of              
intent application amount will be about $48 million, but he                    
cautioned committee members to bear in mind that "in items 1, 2,               
and 3 about $38 million is what's being contemplated (indisc.)                 
including in House Bill 432."  The letter of intent can be used by             
Anchorage to offset the airport revenue bonding expenditures;                  
however, it very early in the process and we won't know exactly how            
much federal funds will be available in the way of discretionary               
dollars for Anchorage International Airport until decisions are                
made, probably in June or July.                                                
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said also from a funding strategy standpoint, he would             
be remiss if he didn't mention how projects of this magnitude are              
funded at other major airports throughout the country.  He had                 
spoken to the legislature previously about the importance of                   
implementing a passenger facility charge (PFC) program in the state            
of Alaska.  Actually, Anchorage International Airport could be                 
earning anywhere from $5 million to $6 million annually from PFC               
collections.  Basically, PFCs are a $3 per passenger user fee for              
use of the airport facility and are the most viable way to finance             
large airport infrastructure development projects.  The PFCs                   
provide a reliable stream for funding for long-term planning,                  
especially for terminal building and landside improvements that do             
not compete well in terms of the FAA national priority system.                 
Also, PFC revenues can be used to pay back debt service.                       
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said in any event, the FAA fully supports the projects             
at Anchorage International Airport and will do everything possible             
to maximum the federal funding available to support these projects.            
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY announced that Representative Mulder had joined               
the meeting.                                                                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked how long Mr. Simpson had been in his             
current job with the FAA and how long had he been in Alaska.                   
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said he had been in airports program since 1980 and in             
the Alaska region since 1991.                                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG said that Mr. Simpson had indicated that no            
decisions would be made until June or July and asked if he was                 
referring to decisions made at the FAA level.  Also, he inquired if            
a congressional appropriation was required to fund the money.                  
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said in answer to the first question, the decisions are            
made at the national level by the airports organization in FAA                 
headquarters; and secondly, the legislative appropriation for the              
FY 98 program was passed last calendar year and there is funding               
available at this time.  The funding he spoke to specifically in               
the area of entitlement funding, is available right now for                    
Anchorage International Airport this fiscal year.                              
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked what the scope of those monies would             
be?  Would it be the entire $48 million or would it be when the                
projects are approved by some trip-wire mechanism that's in the                
letter of intent?                                                              
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON explained the letter of intent is a long-term plan and             
along with it is a long-term funding strategy, and the funds for               
the letter of intent would be paid out over the term of the letter             
of intent agreement.  So, for a project of this magnitude with a               
debt service over a number of years, the letter of intent federal              
financial commitment would also be over that term.                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if he was correct in that the money              
is available now, but it would be paid out over a year so there                
would not be any other congressional funding of the monies.                    
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON clarified the letter of intent would primarily be the              
request for discretionary funds, which goes through the competitive            
process.  The entitlement fund is a different pot of money.  As the            
long term needs of Anchorage International Airport are looked at,              
it's not the best strategy to tie up entitlement funds throughout              
the term of a letter of intent if other nonfederal funding can be              
secured as well.  The AIP program is funded through the next two               
fiscal years, at which time it will take additional action by                  
Congress to either extend or prove continuation of the AIP program.            
                                                                               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG questioned if AIP funding was both                     
entitlement and discretionary funding, but the letter of intent was            
discretionary funding.                                                         
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON responded that the letter of intent is basically a                 
request for discretionary commitment from the federal government.              
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked Mr. Simpson to expand on his                     
cautionary comment about tying up entitlement monies.                          
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said the airport does have an option to commit its                 
entitlement fully to the letter of intent during the period of the             
letter of intent, so when other airport development needs that may             
develop during the term of the letter of intent agreement are                  
looked at, it's not always the best strategy to tie up the                     
airport's entitlements for the entire length of the letter of                  
intent commitment.                                                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked, "Do you think if we have an LOI                 
commitment for $48 million, it would hurt our chances to get                   
additional funds on an entitlement basis?"                                     
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON said the line of financial strategy would be to commit             
a portion of the entitlement funds, but not the entirety.  That                
would certainly show local commitment to the overall letter of                 
intent package.                                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY thanked Mr. Simpson for his testimony and said the            
committee may have additional questions later.                                 
                                                                               
MR. SIMPSON acknowledged the funding picture is somewhat complex,              
but he said the $25 million contemplated by HB 432 is not                      
guaranteed and FAA would have to have a good funding strategy as               
well as high priority projects to secure that level of funding.                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY asked Mano Frey to present his testimony from                 
Anchorage.                                                                     
                                                                               
MANO FREY, President, Alaska AFL-CIO, testified that his job often             
requires him to travel outside the state, so he is familiar with a             
number of airports.  He avoids going to Detroit at any cost because            
it's a terrible facility with not much hope in the near future of              
making it better.  He has, however, been in a number of airports               
and often thought it would be nice if Anchorage had a facility like            
that.  He said it is time for Concourse C to go, so he is pleased              
to see that one of the first phases would be to get rid of                     
Concourse C and build a new wing so the traveling public can be                
better served.                                                                 
                                                                               
MR. FREY said that Alaska AFL-CIO, especially the construction                 
unions that would be involved in this project, fully support the               
concept of Gateway Alaska which is much broader than just the                  
funding of the airport improvements.  It includes repairs to                   
International Airport Road, widening of C Street, and other                    
improvements.  He encouraged cooperation between the legislature               
and the Administration in order that this plan may go forward and              
avoid any delays which would result in additional spending.  He                
said this is easily the largest construction project in Anchorage's            
near term future and stressed the importance of getting the project            
underway as efficiently as possible.                                           
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY stated he believed that everyone seated at the                
table and the majority of the people support this project.  He                 
thanked Mr. Mano for his testimony and asked Mr. Heyman to testify.            
                                                                               
DUANE HEYMAN, Executive Director, Commonwealth North, testified                
from Anchorage that Commonwealth North is a public policy research             
group with 350 members.  On February 10, Commonwealth North passed             
a resolution in support of revitalizing the Anchorage International            
Airport.  They endorsed the revitalization project as approved by              
the airlines and have requested the legislature to approve the                 
authorizing legislation.  He said there are a number of reasons for            
Commonwealth North's endorsement and emphasized the impact on                  
Alaska's economy both now and in the future, plus the 11,000 jobs              
related to the airport.                                                        
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY noted that he and most of the other legislators               
had  received the letter of endorsement from Commonwealth North.               
He thanked Mr. Heyman for his testimony and asked Ron Lance to                 
begin his testimony.                                                           
                                                                               
RON LANCE, General Manager, United Airlines, testified from                    
Anchorage in support of the project and expressed support for the              
process of the projects in place.  He said it's a very unique                  
opportunity to participate in this project between the airlines and            
the airports and is satisfied that everyone involved has done their            
part.  After working 12 years at the Anchorage International                   
Airport, he is aware that the airport needs to be fixed.                       
Hopefully, this project will take care of that.                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY thanked Ron Lance for his testimony and asked Joe             
Griffith for his comments.                                                     
                                                                               
JOE GRIFFITH, Representative, Anchorage Chamber of Commerce,                   
testified via teleconference from Anchorage.  He said the Anchorage            
Chamber of Commerce had passed a resolution supporting this                    
project.                                                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY noted that the letter from the Anchorage Chamber              
of Commerce was in committee files and thanked Mr. Griffith for his            
testimony.  He asked Sherman Ernouf to testify next.                           
                                                                               
SHERMAN ERNOUF, Special Assistant to Mayor Rick Mystrom, testified             
on behalf of Mayor Mystrom in support of this project.                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN COWDERY inquired if there was anyone else waiting to                  
testify?                                                                       
                                                                               
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CHAIRMAN COWDERY said the committee would meet again the following             
evening at 5:00 p.m.                                                           

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